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SHS 400×400×8 vs CF SHS 400×400×8

SHS 400×400×8 is an SHS Hot-finished section from the UK Blue Book (SCI P363); CF SHS 400×400×8 is the closest equivalent in the UK Blue Book (SCI P363). They are close to interchangeable in bending: 1830 cm³ against 1800 cm³ of plastic modulus, a difference of 1.7%. They weigh essentially the same, 97.9 kg/m and 96.7 kg/m. Both are about 400 mm deep, so either fits the same construction zone.

Section properties side by side. Bold marks the more favourable value where one is.
PropertySHS 400×400×8
SHS Hot-finished
CF SHS 400×400×8
SHS Cold-formed
Difference
Mass97.9 kg/m96.7 kg/m+1.2%
Depth400 mm400 mmsame
Width400 mm400 mmsame
Web thickness0 mm0 mmsame
Flange thickness0 mm0 mmsame
Area125 cm²123 cm²+1.6%
Second moment, major (Iy)31,900 cm⁴31,300 cm⁴+1.9%
Plastic modulus, major (Wpl,y)1,830 cm³1,800 cm³+1.7%
Elastic modulus, major (Wel,y)1,590 cm³1,560 cm³+1.9%
Second moment, minor (Iz)31,900 cm⁴31,300 cm⁴+1.9%
Plastic modulus, minor (Wpl,z)1,830 cm³1,800 cm³+1.7%
Radius of gyration, minor (iz)16 cm15.9 cm+0.6%
Torsion constant (It)48,700 cm⁴48,900 cm⁴-0.4%

SHS 400×400×8 to BS EN 10210-2:2006; CF SHS 400×400×8 to BS EN 10219-2:2006. Difference is expressed relative to CF SHS 400×400×8.

How to choose between them

On stiffness, SHS 400×400×8 has the larger second moment of area: 31,900 cm⁴ against 31,300 cm⁴, a difference of 1.9%. This matters more often than the strength comparison, because on normal floor spans deflection rather than bending capacity sets the beam size - so if the two are close on modulus but apart on inertia, the stiffer one is usually the better answer even when it is not the stronger one.

Measured as bending capacity per kilogram, the two are equally efficient (18.7 against 18.6 cm³ per kg/m), so on a pure steel-tonnage basis there is nothing to choose between them. The decision comes down to availability, connection detailing and what the rest of the frame uses.

In short, these two are genuine equivalents. Pick whichever your supplier stocks and the rest of the frame already uses.

Common questions

They are effectively equal in bending. SHS 400×400×8 has a plastic modulus of 1830 cm³ and CF SHS 400×400×8 has 1800 cm³, a difference of only 1.7% - within the margin that section choice normally turns on. Compare stiffness and availability instead.

Neither meaningfully: SHS 400×400×8 is 97.9 kg/m and CF SHS 400×400×8 is 96.7 kg/m. On a tonnage basis they cost the same.

Structurally it is the closest equivalent we hold: CF SHS 400×400×8 gives 1800 cm³ of plastic modulus and 31,300 cm⁴ of inertia against 1830 cm³ and 31,900 cm⁴. Re-check deflection and the connection details before swapping, since the flange and web thicknesses differ.

SHS 400×400×8, with a second moment of area of 31,900 cm⁴ against 31,300 cm⁴ (1.9% more). Deflection under a uniform load goes as 5wL⁴/384EI, so it is inversely proportional to I - on a span where the deflection limit governs rather than strength, this is the number that decides the section.

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