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SHS 400×400×8.8 vs SHS 400×400×9

SHS 400×400×8.8 is an SHS Hot-finished section from the UK Blue Book (SCI P363); SHS 400×400×9 is the closest equivalent in the European (Continental) range. They are close to interchangeable in bending: 2000 cm³ against 2009 cm³ of plastic modulus, a difference of 0.4%. They weigh essentially the same, 107 kg/m and 109 kg/m. Both are about 400 mm deep, so either fits the same construction zone.

Section properties side by side. Bold marks the more favourable value where one is.
PropertySHS 400×400×8.8
SHS Hot-finished
SHS 400×400×9
SHS Cold-formed
Difference
Mass107 kg/m109 kg/m-1.8%
Depth400 mm400 mmsame
Width400 mm400 mmsame
Web thickness0 mm0 mmsame
Flange thickness0 mm0 mmsame
Area137 cm²138 cm²-0.7%
Second moment, major (Iy)34,800 cm⁴34,790 cm⁴same
Plastic modulus, major (Wpl,y)2,000 cm³2,009 cm³-0.4%
Elastic modulus, major (Wel,y)1,740 cm³1,739 cm³+0.1%
Second moment, minor (Iz)34,800 cm⁴34,790 cm⁴same
Plastic modulus, minor (Wpl,z)2,000 cm³2,009 cm³-0.4%
Radius of gyration, minor (iz)15.9 cm15.9 cmsame
Torsion constant (It)53,300 cm⁴54,720 cm⁴-2.6%

SHS 400×400×8.8 to BS EN 10210-2:2006; SHS 400×400×9 to EN 10219 · Continental Steel. Difference is expressed relative to SHS 400×400×9.

How to choose between them

On stiffness, SHS 400×400×8.8 has the larger second moment of area: 34,800 cm⁴ against 34,790 cm⁴, a difference of 0.0%. This matters more often than the strength comparison, because on normal floor spans deflection rather than bending capacity sets the beam size - so if the two are close on modulus but apart on inertia, the stiffer one is usually the better answer even when it is not the stronger one.

Measured as bending capacity per kilogram, the two are equally efficient (18.7 against 18.4 cm³ per kg/m), so on a pure steel-tonnage basis there is nothing to choose between them. The decision comes down to availability, connection detailing and what the rest of the frame uses.

These come from different catalogues, so treat the swap as a design change rather than a like-for-like substitution. SHS Hot-finished sections are specified to BS EN 10210-2:2006 and SHS Cold-formed to EN 10219 · Continental Steel; the steel grades, tolerances and available lengths differ, connection details and bolt gauges are set out differently, and the two are rarely both stocked in the same market. Check availability before changing a section on a drawing to save a marginal amount of weight.

In short, these two are genuine equivalents. Pick whichever your supplier stocks and the rest of the frame already uses.

Common questions

They are effectively equal in bending. SHS 400×400×8.8 has a plastic modulus of 2000 cm³ and SHS 400×400×9 has 2009 cm³, a difference of only 0.4% - within the margin that section choice normally turns on. Compare stiffness and availability instead.

Neither meaningfully: SHS 400×400×8.8 is 107 kg/m and SHS 400×400×9 is 109 kg/m. On a tonnage basis they cost the same.

Structurally it is the closest equivalent we hold: SHS 400×400×9 gives 2009 cm³ of plastic modulus and 34,790 cm⁴ of inertia against 2000 cm³ and 34,800 cm⁴. But they are from different catalogues (BS EN 10210-2:2006 and EN 10219 · Continental Steel), so this is a design change, not a drop-in swap: re-check deflection, connection detailing and local availability.

SHS 400×400×8.8, with a second moment of area of 34,800 cm⁴ against 34,790 cm⁴ (0.0% more). Deflection under a uniform load goes as 5wL⁴/384EI, so it is inversely proportional to I - on a span where the deflection limit governs rather than strength, this is the number that decides the section.

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