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W 33X169 vs HE 800 B

W 33X169 is an W section from the American AISC Shapes Database; HE 800 B is the closest equivalent in the European (Continental) range. They are close to interchangeable in bending: 10307.5 cm³ against 10200 cm³ of plastic modulus, a difference of 1.1%. W 33X169 is the lighter of the two at 251.5 kg/m against 262 kg/m, a saving of 4.0% on steel weight. W 33X169 is deeper, 858.5 mm against 800 mm, which matters where the floor zone is tight.

Section properties side by side. Bold marks the more favourable value where one is.
PropertyW 33X169
W
HE 800 B
HE
Difference
Mass251.5 kg/m262 kg/m-4.0%
Depth858.5 mm800 mm+7.3%
Width292.1 mm300 mm-2.6%
Web thickness17 mm17.5 mm-2.9%
Flange thickness31 mm33 mm-6.1%
Area319.4 cm²334 cm²-4.4%
Second moment, major (Iy)386,679 cm⁴359,000 cm⁴+7.7%
Plastic modulus, major (Wpl,y)10,307.5 cm³10,200 cm³+1.1%
Elastic modulus, major (Wel,y)8,996.5 cm³8,980 cm³+0.2%
Second moment, minor (Iz)12,903 cm⁴14,900 cm⁴-13.4%
Plastic modulus, minor (Wpl,z)1,383.1 cm³1,550 cm³-10.8%
Radius of gyration, minor (iz)6.35 cm6.68 cm-4.9%
Torsion constant (It)736.7 cm⁴959 cm⁴-23.2%

W 33X169 to AISC Shapes Database v16.0; HE 800 B to EN 10365 · Continental Steel. Difference is expressed relative to HE 800 B.

How to choose between them

On stiffness, W 33X169 has the larger second moment of area: 386,679 cm⁴ against 359,000 cm⁴, a difference of 7.7%. This matters more often than the strength comparison, because on normal floor spans deflection rather than bending capacity sets the beam size - so if the two are close on modulus but apart on inertia, the stiffer one is usually the better answer even when it is not the stronger one.

Measured as bending capacity per kilogram of steel, W 33X169 is the more efficient section: 41.0 against 38.9 cm³ per kg/m, 5.3% better. Over a floor of repeated beams that difference is real tonnage, though it is often outweighed by whichever section the fabricator can actually source.

The two diverge much more about the minor axis: HE 800 B has 1550 cm³ of minor-axis plastic modulus against 1383.1 cm³, 10.8% more. If the member sees any minor-axis bending, or if it is unrestrained over a long length and lateral-torsional buckling governs, that gap decides the comparison even though the major-axis numbers looked equivalent.

These come from different catalogues, so treat the swap as a design change rather than a like-for-like substitution. W sections are specified to AISC Shapes Database v16.0 and HE to EN 10365 · Continental Steel; the steel grades, tolerances and available lengths differ, connection details and bolt gauges are set out differently, and the two are rarely both stocked in the same market. Check availability before changing a section on a drawing to save 4.0% weight.

In short, W 33X169 is the stronger section and W 33X169 is the lighter one; where those are the same section, it is the clear choice, and where they are not, decide on whether your design is governed by capacity or by tonnage.

Common questions

They are effectively equal in bending. W 33X169 has a plastic modulus of 10307.5 cm³ and HE 800 B has 10200 cm³, a difference of only 1.1% - within the margin that section choice normally turns on. Compare stiffness and availability instead.

W 33X169 at 251.5 kg/m, against 262 kg/m for the other - a saving of 4.0%. Over a repeated floor beam that is a real cost difference, but check it against the deflection case before taking it.

Structurally it is the closest equivalent we hold: HE 800 B gives 10200 cm³ of plastic modulus and 359,000 cm⁴ of inertia against 10307.5 cm³ and 386,679 cm⁴. But they are from different catalogues (AISC Shapes Database v16.0 and EN 10365 · Continental Steel), so this is a design change, not a drop-in swap: re-check deflection, connection detailing and local availability.

W 33X169, with a second moment of area of 386,679 cm⁴ against 359,000 cm⁴ (7.7% more). Deflection under a uniform load goes as 5wL⁴/384EI, so it is inversely proportional to I - on a span where the deflection limit governs rather than strength, this is the number that decides the section.

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